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After months of anticipation, this is it! We have been dying to get
our mitts on the MAMBA brushless system and the wait has been worth
every second. We should begin by saying this has been one of the most
rewarding projects/upgrades we have done to date. Dollar for dollar,
this upgrade has produced the most dramatic results of any other item
we can think of, on any other vehicle we have upgraded. OK, it's time
to sit down, buckle up and shut your mouth. You don't want any bugs
flying in your cake hole at 60MPH!
PACKAGING - The MAMBA comes packaged
beautifully in its own little black box. The motor and speed control
are locked into place with foam to prevent any shipping damage. The
extra effort in packaging is appreciated, especially on a performance
system that costs as much as the truck itself! The box is cool and we
will keep it around to store stuff in. Maybe we will toss all our old
Mini-T electronics in it for safe keeping?
The MAMBA package comes with the brushless motor, motor mounting screws,
brushless speed controller (brushless motors need a specific speed controller
to work properly....a standard ESC off the shelf will not work), detailed
instructions for programming the MAMBA, and a power switch.
INSTALLATION - As you may already know,
the MAMBA will not work with the stock electronics setup on the Mini-T.
If you are not interested in replacing your servo and receiver, there
are a number of aftermarket motors that will give performance boosts
while retaining the stock electrics. However NONE of them come close
to the MAMBA in performance. If you are serious, and I mean SERIOUS
about power and speed, the MAMBA is the right way to go....but we're
getting to that part.
Truth be told, the stock Mini-T electronics are nothing special and
the funky ESC/receiver combo is very limiting in design. In fact most
Mini-T owners were disappointed once they realized that upgrading their
servo to something stronger is a real pain in the butt. Making the move
and upgrading your Mini-T to standard electronics will open up a ton
of options that can provide additional performance, less twitching and
more operating range. You can keep your stock Mini-T AM transmitter/controller
by upgrading to a AM receiver. Our recommendation is to bite the bullet
and move to FM. Once you do you will never look back. This should be
a no brainer if you already have a FM controller that has multi model
memory (Airtronics MX-3, JR 3 series, etc). FM offers better range and
less interference. These are especially important when your vehicle
will be moving at 40, 50 or 60+MPH!
Let's
talk briefly about the electronics we chose to work with our MAMBA system.
With our recent purchase of a Team Losi LST, we are now equipped with
a JR X3S FM controller. It has multi-model memory and is synthesized
so we can tune it to any FM channel. SWEET! Receiver shopping was easy.
We found a JR R135 75mhz FM receiver for the nice price of $45 at our
LHS. If you have been following our Mini-T project, you already know
we upgraded the truck to a HiTec HS85MG metal gear servo (see
stage 2). To power the MAMBA, we chose 2-cell and 3-cell Apogee
Lithium Polymer batteries. You can use NiMH batteries with the MAMBA.
Just know that overall speed is almost doubled when using a 3-cell LiPo
compared to a 6-cell NiMH pack.
We lined everything up and found our receiver and the MAMBA controller
fit perfectly onto the upper deck of the FFRC aluminum chassis. We installed
the FFRC Big Block motor plate before installing the MAMBA motor. We
used the included mounting screws but we did add some thin washers onto
the screws. Everything fit up perfectly. As the MAMBA motor shaft is
not splined like the stock motor, we upgraded to a metal pinion gear
from Trinity. We soaked the set screw down with medium strength thread
locker to keep it in place. The metal gear will be better able to handle
the power of this motor. Let's face it, there is no way a plastic splined
gear is going to hang onto this motor! We kept the stock gear ratio
in tact with the new metal pinion gear. The gears from Trinity were
a little pricey at $20 but you do get several gears of different sizes
in the bag. We'll play with some different ratios later.
We
mounted the controller to the rear of the upper chassis plate. The MAMBA
controller has three wires that run to the motor. Castle did a great
thing by soldering wires onto the motor and speed control. That makes
installation very easy. The connections between the controller and motor
(3 wires) have low resistance plugs pre-installed. The wiring is plug
and play! We ran the wires through the rear shock tower and they were
just long enough....a better way to say that is they are exactly the
right length. It is a very neat and clean setup. We gently pushed the
heavy wires coming out of the motor towards the front of the truck to
keep them out of harms way. Then we got smart and rotated the motor
so the wires coming out of the motor were not at the rear of the truck.
The speed control has two leads for the battery and comes without a
plug. This is nice as you can choose the plug style of your choice.
Per Shawn Palmer's (MAMBA representative - a.k.a. Mr. Mamba) recommendation,
we opted for Deans Ultra Plugs for low resistance between the battery
and the speed control. This is the first project in which we have used
Deans plugs and it will not be the last. They fit very securely and
have a super low resistance rating. They are so far and beyond micro
or standard Tamiya plugs, it is not even funny. We will be putting these
on our XXX-T's and every other connector we can find!
Plug the motor into the speed control, plug the speed control into the
receiver and the servo into the receiver. Oh yeah...wait on plugging
in the battery until you have had a chance to read through the programming
instructions.
Castle includes an excellent set of instructions (2 pages...front and
back) for setting the MAMBA system up once everything is plugged in
and ready to run. Take the time to read through them to ensure the system
works properly. The speed control offers many programming options. One
our favorites...it lets you set a voltage cutoff amount, based on what
kind of battery you are running. So once the battery is discharged to
a certain point, the speed control will shut the truck down. Very cool!
Programming is a snap.
The system emits a set of "beeps", "chimes" (it's
very cool to have a motor system that "talks" to you) and
different colored lights to tell you what is going on. You simply use
your controller trigger to change settings. This is a very nice, added
feature that makes this complex, powerful system usable by the RC novice
or the RC expert. I am sure that this process could have been done with
a lower manufacturing cost however it is nice to see a company make
their product as user friendly as possible. Nice work Castle!
Castle
also offers a very cool software option for speed controllers made after
8/2003. You can download the Mamba Link software and use your PC to
program your speed controller. Simply plug in the USB cable (purchased
separately) to the speed control and make your changes. You can set
the brake/reverse type, brake strength, motor timing, cutoff voltage,
start power and more. You can also view throttle and brake curves! This
is a marvelous feature as we often forgot what settings we were running
(yes, we should have written them down).
The MambaLink software would work very well for us as we have a laptop
in the BYT shop. We have not tried this feature yet but we will be ordering
a cable soon and will let you know how it works.
Click
here to check out the MAMBA Owners Manual.
FIT & FINISH / APPEARANCE - The motor
itself is small in diameter but huge on power (we're getting to that
part). It fit perfectly into our Mini-T and onto the FullForce RC motor
plate. We have been told that it fits onto the stock motor plate as
well. The motor has numerous, threaded mounting holes that allow it
to fit not only the Mini-T but other 1/18 scale vehicles (HPI RS4 and
X-Ray M18). The speed control has a very small footprint which is a
huge bonus. The small ESC size allowed us to use a standard size receiver
and that saved us money versus buying a micro rx unit.
The finish on the motor can is a satin, green anodized looking coat
and it looks great. Green = GO! The speed controller is shrink wrapped
to help keep dirt and grime out however it is not "entirely"
sealed. We would have liked to see it entirely enclosed but we doubt
that this will cause any problems.
QUALITY - The quality of the kit is excellent.
The wires and connectors used are very nice. By just looking at the
motor, the quality of this system is very apparent. The only part of
the kit that looks less than perfect is the speed controller itself.
It is basically a small circuit board with some wires coming out of
it. It is shrink wrapped and has a MAMBA decal applied to the shrink
wrap. We can only guess they did not put the speed controller in a plastic
case to keep the footprint as small as possible (and the small footprint
feature is very welcome in an 1/18 scale vehicle). The speed controller
works perfectly and we certainly do not want to make it sound bad....we're
just making an observation. We have been beating the snot out of this
truck since the installation and it has worked flawlessly, no glitches,
no mixed signals....just crystal clear, very smooth operation.
PERFORMANCE - We want to start this part
of the review with some information on the MAMBA kit we used in our
project. This info is from Shawn Palmer from Castle Creations:
8000 Kv MAMBA Performance System:
With the stock gearing and a 3cell Apogee lipo pack (www.pfmdistribution.com),
one of our [Castle Creations] Mini-T's has been confirmed at over 60mph.
With a 2 cell lipo pack, or 8 cells = 48mph. 6 cells = 32mph.
Basically, this motor is almost unusable for actual racing, unless you've
got a really big oval track, or will ONLY use 6 cells or less! Also
- drive train parts at these speeds most likely will have a reduced
life span - stock up on diff sets!
When
we first read the above, we obviously could not wait to get our hands
on this system to see what it could really do. 60+MPH?!?!! Could that
be right? How could it be possible for a truck that is so small to go
so fast? At the time our Mini-T was probably going 18MPH or so and it
seemed quite fast. We were having a blast with it. Little did we know
what was in store for us with the MAMBA!
Nothing we could have done could have prepared us for what we were about
to experience. And we think it is safe to say that nothing we will be
able to put in this article will prepare you for the first time you
see the MAMBA in action. It truly is hard to come up with words that
fairly describe it's performance. Even the video does not do it justice.
A motor is only as good as the battery that
powers it - Per the suggestion of Shawn
at Castle, we contacted PFM Distribution and grabbed some APOGEE Lithium
Polymer batteries. PFM also has a great LiPo charger for $59 and all
you need to add is a power supply. Click
here to see the battery charger we built for the LiPo's. PFM shipped
our batteries and charger right away and we had them in a couple of
days.
The LiPo batteries are super lightweight and super powerful. The cells
come shrink wrapped together and they are well built. The wire leads
are ready for your favorite plug. We opted for the Deans Ultra Plugs
(back to the suggestion by Shawn - hey, when Mr. Mamba speaks, you should
listen). We have a 2 cell LiPo and a 3 cell LiPo. Both charge nicely
without any excessive battery heat. They supply HUGE power to the MAMBA.
These batteries are AWESOME! We first installed the 2 cell LiPo into
a stock Mini-T just to see what it would do. It had more power, acceleration
and run time than a 6 cell NiMH pack! And get this, the LiPo is only
a 830mah! The NiMH is a 1100mah!
You really can not go wrong with lithium polymer batteries. They are
MUCH lighter than standard NiCD or NiMH. They have more power and more
run time. What's not to like?! We would highly recommend the PFM
APOGEE batteries. Don't bother trying to find another source. Just
deal with the experts at PFM and they will take very good care of you.
They have a great
web site and all their goods are on display.
Click
here for the exact 3 cell, 830mah, LiPo Apogee battery we used in this
project (item # 3S1P830).
Let's hit the pavement - We took the
little tike out for a test run on the road in front of BYT central.
It is a long straight road so it seemed to be a good spot to open it
up and see what it could do. The first pull of the trigger showed us
that we were going to have to rethink our driving strategy. The truck
flipped over like it had a spring mounted underneath it! Hmmm. On the
second try, we eased into it and took it up to about 1/3-1/2 trigger.
WOW! The truck was flying down the road at a pace that appeared to be
equal to our T-Maxx's...equal to our T-Maxx's at FULL speed! CRAZY!
At 1/2 trigger, the truck is flying! If you pull the trigger too hard,
even at that speed, the truck will pull a hard wheelie and/or flip over.
It is simply insane! The Mini-T covers so much ground, so fast, we quickly
found that we needed more pavement.
After chatting with Mr. Mamba about our first runs with the system,
he told us that all the Castle Mini-T's with the 8000kv Competition
Plus system have Losi foam tires in the rear. We had never considered
foam as we thought the shear power of the brushless motor would shred
them. We were very wrong. Shawn's recommendation of using foam tires
was a wise one. They work great.
The incredible amount of tire expansion that takes place when under
power can make the truck very difficult to drive. The foams on the rear
may reduce overall speed slightly but having a truck that is more driveable
(and still AMAZINGLY FAST) is much more fun. Properly setup, this truck
could be an incredibly fast street machine!
Time
to get dirty - Time to hit the dirt! For the dirt testing, we
strapped a new pair of shoes on our baby. A full set of Losi Mini Mashers....with
chrome wheels of course. The MAMBA has so much power, it literally flies
around our 1/10 scale dirt track like nothing. It moves so fast on the
dirt, we had to be careful not to launch the Mini-T into a tree top.
Even with the fresh meats, MASSIVE amounts of tire spin is just a trigger
pull away. Wheelies galore! It is a track eating machine! Keeping it
on the track is the hardest part.
Problems? - We encountered two "problems"
during our testing.
The first "problem" is that it can be tough to find
enough real estate to really wind this thing out. We found several parking
lots that were of significant size however the MAMBA made them look
small. This is not a bad thing however if you are like we are, you are
going to want to see this bad boy at full tilt. Just know that you will
need to find a BIG area to really crank it out.
The second "problem" we encountered was the MAMBA
had so much power, it would loosen up the metal pinion gear on occasion.
The Trinity metal gears we used are of very good quality. They have
a setscrew to keep them in place. We used medium strength thread locker
and REALLY cranked down on the set screw (so hard we thought we would
snap the wrench but never did). This seemed to work pretty well but
it would still loosen up after 3-4 battery packs. We finally scuffed
a small portion of the MAMBA motor shaft (it is a polished chrome shaft)
to give the the set screw something to "bite" onto. This seemed
to take care of it. Regardless, it is a small, easy to fix item and
we were able to take care of it with a little common sense. Just keep
that in mind when you are installing your MAMBA!
We had heard from several people that we would encounter diff trouble
by installing the MAMBA in our Mini-T. Happily, we never did. We did
however install a Team Losi adjustable ball differential after about
15 battery packs through the truck. We just saw it at our local hobby
store and "had to have it". Note that we did not do this because
we were experiencing trouble. While installing the new diff setup, we
checked the stock spider gears very carefully and saw no abnormal wear
nor did we see any signs of trouble.
Here are a few more specs on the MAMBA:
Continuous: 25 amps
Surge: 50 amps
Resistance: 0.0045 Ohms
Brake: Proportional
Reversible: Yes - with lockout
Low Voltage Cut-off: Programmable
Connector: Universal
Size
ESC: .95 x 1.72 x 0.4"
Motor: 0.79 dia x 1.3"
Weight (with wires)
ESC: 0.9 oz (24.5 g)
Motor: 1.7 oz (48 g)
Transmitter Programming Options:
Low battery voltage cut-off warning
Brake Strength
Lockout reverse mode
Timing Adjustment
Start-up mode
Reverse speed
COST/VALUE - Do you need to go with the
8000kv system? Probably not. Are you the kind of person that always
has to have the fastest, toughest, coolest truck? Then yes, this is
the system for you. You should really think about what you want to do
with your Mini-T before ordering your system. Castle Creations offers
four different MAMBA systems. Here is a brief description of each system
that Mr. MAMBA shared with us. Read it carefully as it should help you
decide what system is right for you:
Click here to download the following information.
4200 Kv:
Stock Gearing on Mini-T
3 cell Lipo = 32mph
2 cell lipo or 8 cells = 25mph
6 cells = 17mph
The best choice of the serious racer. Very flexible via gearing
for 2 or 3 cell Lipo packs for track use. Very long runtimes for
bashing/practicing on 6 cell packs - not particularly fast on
6 cells, but a TON of torque, and lots of fun. 3 cell Lipo runs
are still MUCH faster than any brushed motor option out there,
and longer runtimes as well, due to the increased efficiency.
5400 Kv:
Stock gearing Mini-T
3 cell Lipo = 40mph
2 cell Lipo or 8 cells = 33mph
6 cells = 20mph
A very good 6 cell or 7 cell racing set-up with long runtimes,
and also the best racing set-up for running 2 cell lipos. The
most versatile of all the combos for both racing, and insane speed
runs with a 3cell Lipo pack.
6800 Kv:
Stock gearing Mini-T
3 cell Lipo = 50mph
2 cell Lipo, or 8 cells = 40mph
6 cells = 27mph
Most likely, the best 6 cell all-purpose racing setup. Good runtimes
and speed. A little hot for racing w/more than 6 cells, but still
VERY capable of ridiculous bashing speed runs on 8 cells, or 3s
Lipos.
8000 Kv (the system tested by BYT):
With the stock gearing and a 3cell Apogee lipo pack (www.pfmdistribution.com),
one of our Mini-T's has been confirmed at over 60mph.
With a 2 cell lipo pack, or 8 cells = 48mph
6 cells = 32mph
Basically, this motor is almost unuseable for actual racing, unless
you've got a really big oval track, or will ONLY use 6 cells or
less! Also - drivetrain parts at these speeds most likely will
have a reduced life span - stock up on diff sets! |
The cost of the MAMBA is very low ($150 for the Competition X package) when you weigh in the performance
gain. Just remember that you will have to do some other upgrades to
make the MAMBA work (bare minimum a new AM receiver $45 (if you keep your stock controller), a new servo $30
and a servo saver $5). These costs should also be factored into the
buying decision. Is it worth it? Absolutely without a doubt, YES it
is.
SUMMARY - What may be just as amazing
as the MAMBA itself it the fact that this little truck, that only did
15MPH out of the box can handle this kind of power and speed. Granted
we have upgraded our Mini-T with lots of aluminum and other tough goodies
but the truck still handled well at speed.
The MAMBA is the single most powerful upgrade
we have ever installed on any RC vehicle. Sure, you can put a
Sirio in your T-Maxx and the power increase is great. It is nothing
compared to taking an 1/18 scale truck from 18MPH to 60+MPH. We have
been driving and driving this little guy and every time out, it is more
fun than the last. Here's another way to look at it. We recently purchased
a Team Losi LST and a Savage SS. Since the MAMBA, we haven't touched
either truck for more than a few minutes. In fact we are going to need
to lock this thing away so we can focus on some other projects!
Thanks to Castle
Creations for creating such a fantastic performance package. And
thanks to PFM
Distribution for giving it the APOGEE
battery power it needs to really make this Mini-T a rocket ship! |